{"id":9916,"date":"2022-09-16T13:39:53","date_gmt":"2022-09-16T13:39:53","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/aurelis.org\/blog\/?p=9916"},"modified":"2022-10-30T09:30:35","modified_gmt":"2022-10-30T09:30:35","slug":"how-to-dis-illusion","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aurelis.org\/blog\/sociocultural-issues\/how-to-dis-illusion","title":{"rendered":"How to Dis-Illusion"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<h3>How can one get people out of a clear and certain state of illusion?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>For instance, flat-earthers.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>My earth is not flat. If yours is, then my task \u2013 including with this text \u2013 is to invite-guide-bring you toward a different opinion. How should I do that?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Not by telling you to look to the end of your street and see how downwardly curbed it is not and how cars automatically do not go quicker toward the end, to finally drop into a void before reaching the next village.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>The image\u2019s triangle<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This never-ending triangle (\u2018Penrose triangle\u2019 or \u2018impossible tribar\u2019) is an optical illusion. It is, of course, a two-dimensional image, but you see a three-dimensional object that cannot exist as a solid object in reality.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>At least for some time, you keep seeing the impossible. The most intriguing part of this is the persistence of your mind\/brain. You cannot easily <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">make <\/span>yourself <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">see <\/span>this image as not applicable to the impossible situation that you automatically project. What you can do is overwhelm yourself with rationality that clearly shows the dead end. This way, you can try to open yourself \u2013 including your visual system \u2013 to stop the nonsense. That might bring you closer to seeing the previously unseen, but it doesn\u2019t <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">do <\/span>it for you.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In other words, to dis-illusion yourself in this example is challenging.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Likewise<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>To dis-illusion the proud possessor of a mind\/brain containing impossibly triangular opinions about some clearly untrue issue  is equally hard for the same reason. You cannot <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">make <\/span>someone <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">see<\/span> beyond obvious falsehoods. Also, no rationality will <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">do <\/span>this for you. If you think it will, well, that is also an illusion.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So, if I want to dis-illusion you from one or the other, I need rationality, for sure\u2026 as a first step. Metaphorically speaking, rationality can be the opening of a door and a friendly invitation to go through this door. On many occasions, this is enough to guide someone through it. However, how hard you may do your best, you cannot forcibly push someone through this door \u2015 except, perhaps, after washing his brain, but let\u2019s not go there.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Obviously, to the illusioned one, the illusion is reality<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Likewise, not being his reality, yours seems like an illusion to the other. You both have an experience of me-right-you-wrong.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>You can keep shooting at each other for a long time \u2015 both, as just said, coming from the same experience.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>That is weird.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>So?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In such a case, it\u2019s good to keep your standpoint, obviously.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>At the same time \u2013 and only then \u2013 can you also take the standpoint of the other. I mean, doing your best to try to see things from the other\u2019s perspective.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Guaranteed, you will learn from this as long as you don\u2019t start shooting again. Some questions may even enhance your learning:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul><li>What is the meaning of the illusion? Why may it be attractive?<\/li><li>What is even more profoundly attractive in the same? Can you say something about this after answering the first question?<\/li><li>Can you let yourself go from one end of the spectrum (reality) to the other (illusion) and back again?<\/li><li>Can you describe each side of the conversation in straightforward wordings to the other side with only slight conceptual fuzziness?<\/li><li>What can be seen as rational by both sides?<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>You can ask the other to do the same thing.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But even if he doesn\u2019t, you can start at the same level now. While you keep your standpoint, you can show that you understand the other. You can show your interest, and even show that you can experience the why of the other.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Perhaps, adopting the other\u2019s standpoint makes you feel better \u2015 no problem, rather fascinating. It brings you closer to Compassion concerning the basic human predicament since you are feeling it firsthand: at the same time being too smart and not smart enough.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Oh yes, and the dis-illusion.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Being with the other \u2013 and at the same time with yourself \u2013 is the best you can do to bridge the illusion gap.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Meanwhile, the other may keep fighting for what he perceives to be the deeper meaning. OKAY. There should be no battle at that level, but a trying to find each other. Deeper meaning can only change from the inside out. Superficial meaning can only change if deeper meaning allows it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Another triangle is impossible forever.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Out of the philosophical armchair<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It\u2019s just an example, but do you see the practical importance of this for what is presently happening in Ukraine?<\/p>\n<div data-object_id=\"9916\" class=\"cbxwpbkmarkwrap cbxwpbkmarkwrap_no_cat cbxwpbkmarkwrap-post \"><a  data-redirect-url=\"https:\/\/aurelis.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9916\"  data-display-label=\"0\" data-show-count=\"0\" data-bookmark-label=\" \"  data-bookmarked-label=\" \"  data-loggedin=\"0\" data-type=\"post\" data-object_id=\"9916\" class=\"cbxwpbkmarktrig  cbxwpbkmarktrig-button-addto\" title=\"Bookmark This\" href=\"#\"><span class=\"cbxwpbkmarktrig-label\"  style=\"display:none;\" > <\/span><\/a> <div  data-type=\"post\" data-object_id=\"9916\" class=\"cbxwpbkmarkguestwrap\" id=\"cbxwpbkmarkguestwrap-9916\"><div class=\"cbxwpbkmarkguest-message\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"cbxwpbkmarkguesttrig_close\"><\/a><h3 class=\"cbxwpbookmark-title cbxwpbookmark-title-login\">Please login to bookmark<\/h3>\n\t\t<form name=\"loginform\" id=\"loginform\" action=\"https:\/\/aurelis.org\/blog\/wp-login.php\" method=\"post\">\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t<p class=\"login-username\">\n\t\t\t\t<label for=\"user_login\">Username or Email Address<\/label>\n\t\t\t\t<input type=\"text\" name=\"log\" id=\"user_login\" class=\"input\" value=\"\" size=\"20\" \/>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p class=\"login-password\">\n\t\t\t\t<label for=\"user_pass\">Password<\/label>\n\t\t\t\t<input type=\"password\" name=\"pwd\" id=\"user_pass\" class=\"input\" value=\"\" size=\"20\" \/>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t<p class=\"login-remember\"><label><input name=\"rememberme\" type=\"checkbox\" id=\"rememberme\" value=\"forever\" \/> Remember Me<\/label><\/p>\n\t\t\t<p class=\"login-submit\">\n\t\t\t\t<input type=\"submit\" name=\"wp-submit\" id=\"wp-submit\" class=\"button button-primary\" value=\"Log In\" \/>\n\t\t\t\t<input type=\"hidden\" name=\"redirect_to\" value=\"https:\/\/aurelis.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9916\" \/>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t\n\t\t<\/form><\/div><\/div><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>How can one get people out of a clear and certain state of illusion? 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