{"id":3658,"date":"2020-01-01T09:41:00","date_gmt":"2020-01-01T09:41:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/aurelis.org\/blog\/?p=3658"},"modified":"2022-06-25T09:41:03","modified_gmt":"2022-06-25T09:41:03","slug":"killing-babies","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aurelis.org\/blog\/sociocultural-issues\/killing-babies","title":{"rendered":"Killing Babies? &#8211; Nobody Does"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<h3>No sane person likes killing babies.<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I don&#8217;t like killing babies.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I don&#8217;t like the killing of babies.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I don&#8217;t like the idea of babies getting killed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Babies should be respected as human beings.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But put one cell together with another cell, and there is no baby.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Calling that a baby is disrespectful to babies.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Calling that a baby makes it more probable that real babies get killed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Because: where&#8217;s the difference? If you put it here and I put it there, we&#8217;re both against killing babies. So, we&#8217;re not arguing for or against killing babies. We&#8217;re arguing about definitions.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What is a baby?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>There&#8217;s no progressive or conservative in this unless one lives by division.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A says B kills babies. B says A kills babies. Please don&#8217;t. It&#8217;s horrible to murder babies. But can one murder a cell? Two cells? Four? Eight? Of course not!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For instance: take those eight cells. Then take very many + eight cells \u2014 an adult human being. Then demolish those eight cells. That doesn&#8217;t make you a murderer. Of course not!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It&#8217;s not about babies. It&#8217;s not even about cells. It&#8217;s about very small differences in types of cells. Those differences can be brought back to the molecular level. It&#8217;s about molecules.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It&#8217;s a discussion about definitions about molecules \u2014 nothing more, nothing less.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Isn&#8217;t it weird?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>No no no no no no no no no no. No?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Make it 80 cells.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>8000.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>8 million.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>8 billion.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Somewhere along the line, there may be disagreement among people who are against killing babies, about whether they are &#8216;for abortion&#8217; or &#8216;against abortion.&#8217;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But there are no such people because there are no strict delineations.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>There are people who are against killing babies. I would hope there are no others.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Then we can discuss what a baby is. That&#8217;s a healthy discussion! We can strive toward making it as healthy as possible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But if someone tears it back down toward a definition about some molecules, and if you don&#8217;t, and I don&#8217;t, then we may agree that such a person is hugely misguided.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Any sane person would agree, and especially God (who, in case of a baby being a few cells, would be killing millions every day).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This is not about believers versus non-believers,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>but about rationality and depth.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Both are sacred to me.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Not one without the other, and certainly not what flies in the face of both.<\/p>\n<div data-object_id=\"3658\" class=\"cbxwpbkmarkwrap cbxwpbkmarkwrap_no_cat cbxwpbkmarkwrap-post \"><a  data-redirect-url=\"https:\/\/aurelis.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3658\"  data-display-label=\"0\" data-show-count=\"0\" data-bookmark-label=\" \"  data-bookmarked-label=\" \"  data-loggedin=\"0\" data-type=\"post\" data-object_id=\"3658\" class=\"cbxwpbkmarktrig  cbxwpbkmarktrig-button-addto\" title=\"Bookmark This\" href=\"#\"><span class=\"cbxwpbkmarktrig-label\"  style=\"display:none;\" > <\/span><\/a> <div  data-type=\"post\" data-object_id=\"3658\" class=\"cbxwpbkmarkguestwrap\" id=\"cbxwpbkmarkguestwrap-3658\"><div class=\"cbxwpbkmarkguest-message\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"cbxwpbkmarkguesttrig_close\"><\/a><h3 class=\"cbxwpbookmark-title cbxwpbookmark-title-login\">Please login to bookmark<\/h3>\n\t\t<form name=\"loginform\" id=\"loginform\" action=\"https:\/\/aurelis.org\/blog\/wp-login.php\" method=\"post\">\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t<p class=\"login-username\">\n\t\t\t\t<label for=\"user_login\">Username or Email Address<\/label>\n\t\t\t\t<input type=\"text\" name=\"log\" id=\"user_login\" class=\"input\" value=\"\" size=\"20\" \/>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p class=\"login-password\">\n\t\t\t\t<label for=\"user_pass\">Password<\/label>\n\t\t\t\t<input type=\"password\" name=\"pwd\" id=\"user_pass\" class=\"input\" value=\"\" size=\"20\" \/>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t<p class=\"login-remember\"><label><input name=\"rememberme\" type=\"checkbox\" id=\"rememberme\" value=\"forever\" \/> Remember Me<\/label><\/p>\n\t\t\t<p class=\"login-submit\">\n\t\t\t\t<input type=\"submit\" name=\"wp-submit\" id=\"wp-submit\" class=\"button button-primary\" value=\"Log In\" \/>\n\t\t\t\t<input type=\"hidden\" name=\"redirect_to\" value=\"https:\/\/aurelis.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3658\" \/>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t\n\t\t<\/form><\/div><\/div><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>No sane person likes killing babies. I don&#8217;t like killing babies. I don&#8217;t like the killing of babies. I don&#8217;t like the idea of babies getting killed. Babies should be respected as human beings. But put one cell together with another cell, and there is no baby. 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