{"id":2039,"date":"2018-08-23T02:41:38","date_gmt":"2018-08-23T02:41:38","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/aurelis.org\/blog\/?p=2039"},"modified":"2018-09-23T07:07:36","modified_gmt":"2018-09-23T07:07:36","slug":"inter-religious-deep-down","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aurelis.org\/blog\/open-religion\/inter-religious-deep-down","title":{"rendered":"Inter-Religious, Deep Down"},"content":{"rendered":"<h3>\u2026 instead of an inter-religious \u2018dialogue\u2019 that conglomerates only at the surface, while depth is safely kept out of the picture.<\/h3>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Because that is of course no dialogue in the first place.<\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>It\u2019s rubbing-each-other in order to elicit good feelings and putting a nice image to outside. Hidden agendas remain unchanged.<\/p>\n<p>Sorry. No dialogue. Even less than true dialogue.<\/p>\n<p>And what\u2019s the use of that, in the end?<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Would any volitional \u2018God\u2019 be pleased with <em>that<\/em>?<\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>No.<\/p>\n<p>God Himself, whether as material or metaphorical reality, asks for depth. This, to me, is completely evident.<\/p>\n<p>So, what does Deep Dialogue need?<\/p>\n<p>Evidently, it needs true depth of all partners.<\/p>\n<p>Dear religious reader, this depth is an ongoing effort. It never stops.<\/p>\n<p>And of course, I know what I\u2019m talking about. I\u2019m a human being, valuing depth very much.<\/p>\n<p>True: I don\u2019t need any specific religion for this. I repeat:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>I do not need any specific religion to attain \u2018depth\u2019 which I feel to be very re-ligious.<\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This \u2018depth\u2019 is to me extremely valuable.<\/p>\n<p>So, am I an atheist? Is any talking about \u2018God\u2019 completely irrelevant to me?<\/p>\n<p>In any case, I think that religious terms are used too superficially by many. Additionally, while thinking to talk about the same things (concepts), each is in fact using them quite differently.<\/p>\n<p>Superficially, they agree.<\/p>\n<p>Deep down? For instance:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>&lt; \u2018I\u2019 \u2013 \u2018believe in\u2019 \u2013 \u2018God\u2019. &gt;<\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Three seemingly simple elements, at least as they are most frequently used. Yet all three are mind-bogglingly fuzzy.<\/p>\n<p>What do they mean in depth? How can they be used in any communication or dialogue, for instance, between specific religions?<\/p>\n<p>You might say this is just very subtle. Indeed: subtleness means that even small differences are very important. [see: \u2018<a href=\"https:\/\/aurelis.org\/blog?p=1832\">Subtlety<\/a>\u2019] Especially in a self-declared religious context in which conceptuality is deemed to be of primordial importance:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Is this true or is that true?<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Is it such or such (conceptually)?<\/p>\n<p>Such questions are scientific ones and should be answered as such.<\/p>\n<p>They\u2019re not deeply religious ones.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Religion = depth.<\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Other questions.<\/p>\n<p>Un-answerable questions (conceptually).<\/p>\n<p>Deep questions.<\/p>\n<p>Poetry.<\/p>\n<p>Depth: formless content. [see: \u2018<a href=\"https:\/\/aurelis.org\/blog?p=1794\">Depth is Formless Meaning<\/a>\u2019]<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>True inter-religious dialogue<\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\u2026 is an exercise in finding out that this formless content is, well, content.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s about <em>feeling<\/em> (kind of). It\u2019s about <em>religiosity<\/em>. 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Because that is of course no dialogue in the first place. It\u2019s rubbing-each-other in order to elicit good feelings and putting a nice image to outside. Hidden agendas remain unchanged. Sorry. No dialogue. 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