{"id":1266,"date":"2018-03-28T13:34:34","date_gmt":"2018-03-28T13:34:34","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/aurelis.org\/blog\/?p=1266"},"modified":"2025-02-15T09:51:01","modified_gmt":"2025-02-15T09:51:01","slug":"freedom-of-religion","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aurelis.org\/blog\/open-religion\/freedom-of-religion","title":{"rendered":"Freedom of Religion"},"content":{"rendered":"<h3>It seems a nice endeavor, the \u2018best thing to do\u2019. But is it even possible at an individual level?<\/h3>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Is anyone \u2018free to believe\u2019?<\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Let\u2019s agree that you don\u2019t believe in the existence of unicorns. Are you then \u2018free to believe\u2019 in them? Can you take a conscious decision to believe in such? I cannot and almost certainly you cannot. So, to be \u2018free to believe\u2019 is not immediately evident. It would be so if \u2018believing\u2019 would be the direct result of a conscious decision.<\/p>\n<p>But it isn\u2019t.<\/p>\n<p>So it is with unicorns and so it is with any \u2018thing\u2019 to believe in, including a bearded God on a mountain etc.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>There is science to take care of bearded unicorns or whatever\u2026<\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>or whatever, indeed, \u2018thing\u2019 that can be proven or disproven. Science \u2013 though itself always imperfect \u2013 is just the best we\u2019ve got for the job. Where science is appropriate, it is a bazillion times more appropriate than non-science. \u2018Appropriate\u2019 here is: lying within the borders of conceptualization.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>For example, saying that \u2018God exists\u2019 conceptualizes &lt;God&gt; and &lt;to exist&gt;.<\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Does it? In any case, <em>inasmuch<\/em> as it does, it\u2019s a subject for science. At the other side, <em>inasmuch<\/em> as it doesn\u2019t, one doesn\u2019t \u2018know\u2019 what one is talking about.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>The end of \u2018knowing\u2019 is the start of \u2018believing\u2019.<\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>By definition, a belief (in any \u2018thing\u2019) is never a certainty. Science too is never about certainties, but to a very different degree \/ quality. Frequently however, the experiences of believer and scientist are exactly the reverse of this:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>The scientist knows he doesn\u2019t know.<\/li>\n<li>The believer believes he does know\u2026<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\u2026 thereby losing the distinction between believing and knowing: one <em>cannot<\/em> know by believing. Eventually, one can only not be free \u2013 one way or another \u2013 to believe in any \u2018thing\u2019. Concretely, this can be realized by, for instance, an indoctrination \u2013 gentle or less gentle \u2013 starting from birth. Science shows that such an indoctrination can be very powerful in any direction. Of course, this includes the direction of science itself. A religious person may thus be skeptical to science, but no more than to his own religion. In his skeptical balance, he should go all the way through.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Which is <u>real<\/u> \u2018freedom of religion\u2019:<\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>the freedom to be skeptical, at all times and by any means. Any religion that diminishes this freedom is itself against \u2018freedom of religion\u2019.<\/p>\n<p>Thus, if this kind of freedom is an ideal to you, the following is part of the bargain:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Freedom <u>of<\/u> religion = freedom <u>from<\/u> any religion that contradicts the former.<\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>THIS is Western enlightenment: the \u2018freedom to be skeptical\u2019. I repeat with emphasis: there is no \u2018freedom of religion\u2019 without it.\u00a0For the sake of any concerned individual, this is what lies in the balance: <strong>individual freedom<\/strong>. This freedom is <em>not<\/em> \u2018to believe anything\u2019. Such freedom is impossible anyway.<\/p>\n<p>\u2018Freedom of religion\u2019 has of course also another (very different) meaning: the freedom to exert the actions that belong to one\u2019s belief, which itself has <em>not<\/em> <em>therefore<\/em> been freely chosen. 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But is it even possible at an individual level? Is anyone \u2018free to believe\u2019? Let\u2019s agree that you don\u2019t believe in the existence of unicorns. Are you then \u2018free to believe\u2019 in them? Can you take a conscious decision to believe in such? 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